1
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<i> the people are represented</i>

2
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<i> by two separate</i>
 <i> yet equally important groups:</i>

3
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<i> The police,</i>
    <i> who investigate crime</i>

4
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<i> and the district attorneys,</i>
  <i> who prosecute the offenders.</i>

5
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<i> These are their stories.</i>

6
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We got you.

7
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I got you.

8
00:00:19,153 --> 00:00:20,386
What is it?

9
00:00:20,388 --> 00:00:23,122
Ooh, that's
a globe thistle pod

10
00:00:23,124 --> 00:00:24,790
from a globe thistle tree.

11
00:00:24,792 --> 00:00:26,291
Oh, okay.

12
00:00:28,229 --> 00:00:29,495
Oh, get real.

13
00:00:29,497 --> 00:00:31,630
I can't just leave
for lunch.

14
00:00:31,632 --> 00:00:33,632
Who says you
                   got to leave?

15
00:00:33,634 --> 00:00:36,235
I'm sure you've got
a peanut butter
             sandwich for me.

16
00:00:36,237 --> 00:00:38,303
What have you got
to trade?

17
00:00:38,305 --> 00:00:40,572
Dinner in Soho, tonight?

18
00:00:40,574 --> 00:00:44,109
Okay, but I get
to keep my Twinkies.

19
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Hey, Tisha!

20
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Tisha, stay away
from the dog.

21
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That's not a stray.

22
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It has a collar.

23
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(<i> screaming</i> )

24
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Are you okay?

25
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Did he bite you?

26
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(<i> sobs</i> )

27
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(<i> gasps</i> )

28
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She's real cold.

29
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They say she's been
             out here for hours.

30
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What is it-- a rape,
              or a mugging?

31
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Don't know.
She's in bad shape.

32
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Skull's
                      fractured.

33
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Looks like she's
                been choked.

34
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They think
she'll make it?

35
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I don't know.

36
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They can barely
            find blood pressure.

37
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Hey, guys, move.

38
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Where to?

39
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Saint Teresa's.

40
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Found this...

41
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on the path.

42
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coming through!
        Coming through,
           PARAMEDIC:

43
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CERRETA:
    Has she been conscious?
     Has she said anything?

44
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She's in a coma,
                Detective;

45
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that tends
to prevent speech.

46
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Go to the park,
        get your head crushed?

47
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Makes you want to move
        someplace safe.

48
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Didn't know
            there were any left.

49
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Is she gonna
get out of this?

50
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Cerebral hemorrhage,
        skull fractures,

51
00:01:58,319 --> 00:02:00,252
damage to the vocal chords--

52
00:02:00,254 --> 00:02:03,322
add the exposure,
  it's a miracle she's alive.

53
00:02:03,324 --> 00:02:04,556
She survives this,

54
00:02:04,558 --> 00:02:07,259
she's in for
                a long recovery.

55
00:02:10,698 --> 00:02:13,599
You the cops who
sent us the Jane Doe?

56
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Yup.

57
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Lucy Neven.
        568 Central Park West.

58
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You're kidding.

59
00:02:21,208 --> 00:02:22,574
No, I made it up.
                    Why?

60
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Major soap star.

61
00:02:24,211 --> 00:02:26,378
Delia Mason
on<i> World Without End.</i>

62
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My mother watches it.

63
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She follows the stories
like it happened
to the neighbors.

64
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Tell your mom,

65
00:02:31,185 --> 00:02:32,751
she's in for
                   a plot twist.

66
00:04:00,507 --> 00:04:01,640
You believe this?

67
00:04:01,642 --> 00:04:03,675
They already
got her buried.

68
00:04:03,677 --> 00:04:04,943
She's not in
                    great shape.

69
00:04:04,945 --> 00:04:08,280
We don't crack this quick,
we won't be either.

70
00:04:08,282 --> 00:04:10,782
Whatever's on your plate,
clean it.

71
00:04:10,784 --> 00:04:11,850
This comes first.

72
00:04:11,852 --> 00:04:13,585
Well, it ain't
a mugging,

73
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'cause she still had
cash with her.

74
00:04:15,756 --> 00:04:18,557
Could have been interrupted--
       caught in the act.

75
00:04:18,559 --> 00:04:20,125
She's recognizable.

76
00:04:20,126 --> 00:04:21,692
This woman is on a
           soap opera every day.

77
00:04:21,695 --> 00:04:23,462
LOGAN:
             John Lennon theory.

78
00:04:23,464 --> 00:04:24,763
It's not possible
            heard of her?e never

79
00:04:24,765 --> 00:04:26,498
The fact
               of the matter is,

80
00:04:26,500 --> 00:04:27,599
these people get accosted
             in the supermarket,

81
00:04:27,601 --> 00:04:28,700
for crying out loud.

82
00:04:28,702 --> 00:04:30,702
Phil, nobody's saying no. Okay?

83
00:04:30,704 --> 00:04:31,937
It's a possibility.

84
00:04:31,939 --> 00:04:33,639
Now, what about the girl?

85
00:04:33,641 --> 00:04:34,906
Is she in any shape
         to talk to us?

86
00:04:34,908 --> 00:04:36,808
Barely breathing.

87
00:04:36,810 --> 00:04:40,512
Get what you can
    without her then, okay?

88
00:04:40,514 --> 00:04:42,548
I'm on double shifts.

89
00:04:42,549 --> 00:04:44,583
These days, you got to take
       all the work you can get.

90
00:04:44,585 --> 00:04:46,285
Do you have people hanging
around for her?

91
00:04:46,287 --> 00:04:47,819
Fans? Autograph hounds?

92
00:04:47,821 --> 00:04:49,588
Five, six a year.

93
00:04:49,590 --> 00:04:51,623
Miss Neven-- she keeps
          her address a secret.

94
00:04:51,625 --> 00:04:52,758
MAN:
           Thank you.

95
00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,527
She was almost killed
        on the show.

96
00:04:55,529 --> 00:04:57,529
Do you believe in destiny,
            karma,

97
00:04:57,531 --> 00:04:58,797
that kind of thing?

98
00:04:58,799 --> 00:05:00,666
She was mugged
                  not on TV.k,

99
00:05:00,668 --> 00:05:02,701
Does she walk her dog
on a schedule?

100
00:05:02,703 --> 00:05:05,737
10:00, every night. I give Roxy
   a biscuit as they go out.

101
00:05:05,739 --> 00:05:06,872
Does Miss Neven have
            a busy social life?

102
00:05:06,874 --> 00:05:08,774
A good-looking lady
           like that?

103
00:05:08,776 --> 00:05:11,076
My aunt gets more action;
           she's 60.

104
00:05:13,347 --> 00:05:16,682
They had to write her
        out of the show.

105
00:05:16,684 --> 00:05:20,585
My mother thinks
     Lucy is so glamorous.

106
00:05:20,587 --> 00:05:22,721
I've got it easy being her
           secretary.

107
00:05:22,723 --> 00:05:25,324
She has to work
12 hours a day.

108
00:05:25,326 --> 00:05:26,958
She have time
                to make enemies?

109
00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,361
She's up at 5:30;
she's at the studio by 7:00.

110
00:05:29,363 --> 00:05:30,595
She gets home,

111
00:05:30,597 --> 00:05:32,731
she's too tired
      to brush her teeth.

112
00:05:32,733 --> 00:05:34,066
That's hardly time for friends,

113
00:05:34,068 --> 00:05:35,600
let alone enemies.

114
00:05:35,602 --> 00:05:36,935
Could you tell us
  if anything

115
00:05:36,937 --> 00:05:39,905
she'd have with her
             is missing?

116
00:05:46,580 --> 00:05:49,681
A ring, her...
  grandmother's wedding band,

117
00:05:49,683 --> 00:05:53,618
and a medal--
   her father gave it to her.

118
00:05:53,620 --> 00:05:55,053
St. Genesius.

119
00:05:55,055 --> 00:05:56,121
St. Genesius. That's..?

120
00:05:56,123 --> 00:05:58,924
WOMAN:
The patron saint
of actors.

121
00:05:58,926 --> 00:06:00,625
But why take that?

122
00:06:00,627 --> 00:06:02,794
They didn't take the money;
         that's crazy.

123
00:06:02,796 --> 00:06:06,064
Do you get requests from people
 who ask for things like that?

124
00:06:06,066 --> 00:06:07,733
I sort them--

125
00:06:08,669 --> 00:06:12,938
weird, weirder, weirdest.

126
00:06:12,940 --> 00:06:15,407
These are just
     the past three months.

127
00:06:16,944 --> 00:06:20,879
"I cannot live with the idea
  that you are angry with me."

128
00:06:20,881 --> 00:06:23,148
"I know you would love
         my daughter."

129
00:06:23,150 --> 00:06:26,685
"I didn't like it when you
wouldn't talk to us."

130
00:06:26,687 --> 00:06:28,687
A woman
        broke Lucy's skull? No.

131
00:06:28,689 --> 00:06:29,955
Pardon me, Dr. Freud.

132
00:06:29,957 --> 00:06:32,591
Women don't get angry
and violent?

133
00:06:32,593 --> 00:06:35,093
I hope her mail
 is more interesting than mine.

134
00:06:35,095 --> 00:06:37,696
No contest. These should
       be postmarked "Bellevue."

135
00:06:37,698 --> 00:06:40,699
We have three solid cuckoos
   in town-- one in Atlanta,

136
00:06:40,701 --> 00:06:42,701
two in St. Louis,
         three in L.A.,

137
00:06:42,703 --> 00:06:43,969
and one in Denver.

138
00:06:43,971 --> 00:06:45,537
Had to be local.

139
00:06:45,538 --> 00:06:47,104
Stalked her, knew
        when she walked the dog.

140
00:06:47,107 --> 00:06:49,674
Still, I'll check
the out-of-town alibis.

141
00:06:49,676 --> 00:06:51,410
You guys knock on doors.

142
00:06:51,412 --> 00:06:54,713
First we get fettuccini,
then knock on doors.

143
00:06:54,715 --> 00:06:55,881
(<i> knocking</i> )

144
00:06:55,883 --> 00:06:57,149
Hello?

145
00:06:57,151 --> 00:06:58,784
Mr. Wadsworth?

146
00:06:58,786 --> 00:06:59,885
MAN:
<i> Who's asking?</i>

147
00:06:59,887 --> 00:07:00,952
Police.

148
00:07:02,689 --> 00:07:06,691
We're looking for nominations
for Citizen of the Week, sir.

149
00:07:06,693 --> 00:07:09,694
I'm Mr. Wadsworth.

150
00:07:09,695 --> 00:07:12,696
And there's not a person on this
  damn block worth nominating.

151
00:07:12,699 --> 00:07:16,668
Yes, and you're not
the first one to say so, sir.

152
00:07:16,670 --> 00:07:19,338
I wrote her letters.

153
00:07:19,339 --> 00:07:22,007
She said in lots of interviews
  that she likes to get them.

154
00:07:22,009 --> 00:07:23,675
If you could tell us

155
00:07:23,677 --> 00:07:25,710
where you were
at 10:00 or 11:00?

156
00:07:25,712 --> 00:07:27,679
My girlfriend's apartment,

157
00:07:27,681 --> 00:07:29,681
and then I got home...

158
00:07:29,683 --> 00:07:32,083
um, I don't know... Dad?

159
00:07:32,085 --> 00:07:35,954
Oh, I got home
from the office at 9:00.

160
00:07:35,956 --> 00:07:38,123
Jesse got home...

161
00:07:38,125 --> 00:07:39,691
What, Jesse? 10:00?

162
00:07:39,693 --> 00:07:41,159
Yeah, I think so.

163
00:07:41,161 --> 00:07:44,863
Ah, Olivia, our housekeeper,
she'd remember.

164
00:07:48,902 --> 00:07:50,502
Olivia?

165
00:07:57,778 --> 00:08:00,512
Olivia,
                Thursday night--

166
00:08:00,514 --> 00:08:03,682
what time
            did Jesse get home?

167
00:08:03,684 --> 00:08:06,051
Around 10:30.

168
00:08:06,053 --> 00:08:10,188
I was watching the news--
channel nine.

169
00:08:10,190 --> 00:08:11,723
Thank you.

170
00:08:12,759 --> 00:08:14,926
The biggest soap convention
          of the year.

171
00:08:14,928 --> 00:08:16,194
I wouldn't miss that.

172
00:08:16,196 --> 00:08:17,529
I was there
                Thursday morning

173
00:08:17,531 --> 00:08:20,198
to be there before
        the good stuff got sold.

174
00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:21,933
That's dedication for you.

175
00:08:21,935 --> 00:08:25,203
That comb-- only $60.

176
00:08:25,205 --> 00:08:27,372
Delia was using it

177
00:08:27,373 --> 00:08:29,540
when she told Joel
         she wouldn't marry him.

178
00:08:29,543 --> 00:08:31,209
She's too good for him.

179
00:08:31,211 --> 00:08:33,578
All the people there--

180
00:08:33,579 --> 00:08:35,946
maybe some dealers or somebody
might remember you?

181
00:08:35,949 --> 00:08:37,949
Oh, I don't know.

182
00:08:37,951 --> 00:08:39,818
There were 6,000 people.

183
00:08:39,820 --> 00:08:41,953
Oh, I took the shuttle back.

184
00:08:41,955 --> 00:08:43,522
I threw out the ticket.

185
00:08:43,524 --> 00:08:45,557
I think it's right here.

186
00:09:07,114 --> 00:09:09,080
Was he taller than you?

187
00:09:09,082 --> 00:09:10,782
Or the same height?

188
00:09:13,220 --> 00:09:14,286
LOGAN:
Taller.

189
00:09:14,288 --> 00:09:16,321
You got a good look at him?

190
00:09:19,326 --> 00:09:21,226
ARTIST:
He was dark?

191
00:09:21,228 --> 00:09:23,595
He had a dark complexion?

192
00:09:30,804 --> 00:09:33,338
CERRETA:
                Is this the best
                you can do?

193
00:09:33,340 --> 00:09:35,206
With a woman
        who can't talk?

194
00:09:35,208 --> 00:09:37,943
She's good for 15 minutes
         at a stretch.

195
00:09:37,945 --> 00:09:39,578
Thanks anyway.

196
00:09:39,579 --> 00:09:41,212
You got the staff list
of the soap?
                        Yeah.

197
00:09:41,214 --> 00:09:44,816
Maybe someone was hanging around
that door bothering her.

198
00:09:44,818 --> 00:09:46,084
It's worth a shot.

199
00:09:46,086 --> 00:09:49,321
To me, they all
                 look the same--

200
00:09:49,323 --> 00:09:53,224
autograph pads, sparkly pens
    with big white balls on top.

201
00:09:53,226 --> 00:09:54,626
They line up outside.

202
00:09:54,628 --> 00:09:56,227
They can be difficult.

203
00:09:56,229 --> 00:09:59,297
Maybe Miss Neven made
     one of her fans angry?

204
00:09:59,299 --> 00:10:00,932
She was very gracious.

205
00:10:00,934 --> 00:10:02,067
More than me.

206
00:10:02,069 --> 00:10:03,301
The end of a day,
      I want to get home.

207
00:10:03,303 --> 00:10:05,170
I got a two-year-old kid.

208
00:10:05,171 --> 00:10:07,038
Did Lucy get close
to anybody on the crew?

209
00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,307
I guess Sara<i> was</i> the closest.

210
00:10:09,309 --> 00:10:11,309
CERRETA:
"Was"?

211
00:10:11,311 --> 00:10:12,911
Lucy had her fired.

212
00:10:12,913 --> 00:10:14,913
Something about
                 stuff missing.

213
00:10:14,915 --> 00:10:17,182
You mean,
she was stealing?

214
00:10:17,184 --> 00:10:18,316
Sara said no.

215
00:10:18,318 --> 00:10:19,651
I like her,

216
00:10:19,653 --> 00:10:22,320
but she didn't file
             a union grievance

217
00:10:22,322 --> 00:10:23,922
when she got canned.

218
00:10:23,924 --> 00:10:26,191
Did she have the right
to file one?

219
00:10:26,193 --> 00:10:29,194
Lucy was probably right.

220
00:10:29,196 --> 00:10:31,329
I got her another job--
            costume house.

221
00:10:31,331 --> 00:10:35,200
They supply us, other shows.

222
00:10:35,202 --> 00:10:37,369
I'd heard of Lucy
       turning on people,

223
00:10:37,371 --> 00:10:39,304
but I thought we got along.

224
00:10:39,306 --> 00:10:41,306
Must have done wonders
for your reputation.

225
00:10:41,308 --> 00:10:42,907
I'm happy to have a job.

226
00:10:42,909 --> 00:10:44,643
CERRETA:
Why didn't you
tell your union?

227
00:10:44,645 --> 00:10:45,910
I did.

228
00:10:45,912 --> 00:10:47,178
I<i> did.</i>

229
00:10:47,180 --> 00:10:49,014
You think we didn't check?

230
00:10:49,016 --> 00:10:50,882
I'll put you on the phone
       with your shop steward.

231
00:10:50,884 --> 00:10:53,685
You know what they do
       with old costumes?

232
00:10:53,687 --> 00:10:55,353
Actors take them home.

233
00:10:55,355 --> 00:10:57,956
A guy corners me
      outside the studio,

234
00:10:57,958 --> 00:11:00,358
hands me 200--
      anything of Lucy's.

235
00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,160
Who would it hurt?

236
00:11:02,162 --> 00:11:03,912
What the hell's that?

237
00:11:03,913 --> 00:11:05,663
Thou shalt not steal,
 except when nobody gets hurt?

238
00:11:05,666 --> 00:11:07,065
I needed the money.

239
00:11:07,067 --> 00:11:09,934
But then he started
     wanting slips, bras...

240
00:11:09,936 --> 00:11:12,337
that stuff doesn't belong
          to wardrobe.

241
00:11:12,339 --> 00:11:14,205
That's a fine distinction.

242
00:11:14,207 --> 00:11:15,974
Who was your source of income?

243
00:11:15,976 --> 00:11:18,943
Mitchell Burkitt-- down on
 the Lower Eastside somewhere.

244
00:11:18,945 --> 00:11:20,979
What'd he do
     with Lucy's underwear?

245
00:11:20,981 --> 00:11:24,382
I really didn't want to know.

246
00:11:24,384 --> 00:11:26,451
Burkitt, Michael W.--

247
00:11:26,453 --> 00:11:29,354
criminal trespass two,
burglary three.

248
00:11:29,356 --> 00:11:30,388
What does he like?

249
00:11:30,390 --> 00:11:32,924
Soap opera studios,
movie locations.

250
00:11:32,926 --> 00:11:35,427
Also assaulted a guard
who tried to stop him.

251
00:11:35,429 --> 00:11:37,195
His supplier gets canned,

252
00:11:37,197 --> 00:11:38,930
no more underwear
                to sell.

253
00:11:38,932 --> 00:11:41,199
A ring and a medal--
bigger bucks.

254
00:11:41,201 --> 00:11:42,434
Draw some arrest papers.

255
00:11:42,436 --> 00:11:44,202
Phil, we're not
even pregnant yet.

256
00:11:44,204 --> 00:11:45,336
Assault record?

257
00:11:45,338 --> 00:11:47,338
I want to be prepared.

258
00:11:47,340 --> 00:11:50,075
(<i> loud music playing</i> )

259
00:11:50,077 --> 00:11:52,410
(<i> whispering:</i> )
The stereo's on.

260
00:11:52,412 --> 00:11:54,079
He's at home.

261
00:12:02,289 --> 00:12:03,988
MAN:
           <i> Who is it?</i>

262
00:12:03,990 --> 00:12:07,125
Con Ed-- checking
for a gas leak!

263
00:12:09,196 --> 00:12:10,228
Drop it!

264
00:12:10,230 --> 00:12:12,197
Don't even think
                about it, Mitch!

265
00:12:12,199 --> 00:12:14,165
Now!

266
00:12:14,167 --> 00:12:17,302
You are under arrest
        for the attempted murder

267
00:12:17,304 --> 00:12:18,303
of Lucy Neven.

268
00:12:18,305 --> 00:12:20,305
Why didn't you say
you were cops?

269
00:12:20,307 --> 00:12:22,307
You have the right
             to remain silent...

270
00:12:22,309 --> 00:12:24,342
You didn't say
you were cops!

271
00:12:26,847 --> 00:12:28,397
In my neighborhood, man,

272
00:12:28,398 --> 00:12:29,948
<i> you</i> wouldn't answer
          my door without a gun.

273
00:12:29,950 --> 00:12:32,050
Next time, get one
that's licensed.

274
00:12:32,052 --> 00:12:33,952
I didn't do the lady.

275
00:12:33,954 --> 00:12:35,954
What, do you think
                I'm crazy?

276
00:12:35,956 --> 00:12:38,823
Actually, you're about
the sanest person

277
00:12:38,825 --> 00:12:39,991
we've met all week.

278
00:12:39,993 --> 00:12:42,293
Why would I do her, huh?

279
00:12:42,295 --> 00:12:43,862
She's a cash cow.

280
00:12:43,864 --> 00:12:45,997
I survive on her stuff.

281
00:12:45,999 --> 00:12:49,000
Not since
        you lost your source.

282
00:12:49,002 --> 00:12:54,539
So, Mr. Burkitt,
where were you Thursday night?

283
00:12:54,541 --> 00:12:56,875
I was alone.

284
00:12:56,877 --> 00:12:58,409
Prove I wasn't.

285
00:12:58,411 --> 00:13:00,411
Prove you were!

286
00:13:00,413 --> 00:13:03,948
Your Lucy stuff--
               who buys it?

287
00:13:03,950 --> 00:13:05,917
Kleinman, down on 15th Street.

288
00:13:05,919 --> 00:13:06,951
I want a lawyer.

289
00:13:06,953 --> 00:13:08,419
You'll get a lawyer.

290
00:13:08,421 --> 00:13:10,321
I'll even pay
for the call.

291
00:13:10,323 --> 00:13:13,992
Don't ever say cops
             aren't generous.

292
00:13:13,994 --> 00:13:16,327
You want stills
       from<i> South Pacific?</i>

293
00:13:16,329 --> 00:13:18,029
Mitzi Gaynor's shoes? Fine.

294
00:13:18,031 --> 00:13:20,165
LOGAN:
                Not Lucy Neven's
                underwear?

295
00:13:20,167 --> 00:13:21,966
Do I look like a pervert?

296
00:13:21,968 --> 00:13:24,536
Who buys Lucy's clothes?

297
00:13:24,538 --> 00:13:26,571
Customer's names-- it's private.

298
00:13:26,573 --> 00:13:28,106
Did you give Burkitt
                    an order

299
00:13:28,108 --> 00:13:29,908
to steal Lucy's jewelry?

300
00:13:29,910 --> 00:13:30,992
I sell memorabilia.

301
00:13:30,993 --> 00:13:32,075
You think this is
      a hot car business?

302
00:13:32,078 --> 00:13:34,179
Give me an order,
I get it stolen?

303
00:13:34,181 --> 00:13:36,848
Suppose we get a warrant,
Mr. Kleinman,

304
00:13:36,850 --> 00:13:38,917
and we do
                   an inventory?

305
00:13:38,919 --> 00:13:40,451
Think we'll find
stolen goods?

306
00:13:40,453 --> 00:13:42,453
From a soap opera
               studio maybe?

307
00:13:42,455 --> 00:13:43,988
I'd never accept...

308
00:13:43,990 --> 00:13:46,925
You want us to start checking?

309
00:13:46,927 --> 00:13:49,861
You're starting to make me
      a little impatient.

310
00:13:49,863 --> 00:13:51,863
Voorman.

311
00:13:51,865 --> 00:13:53,865
Tim Voorman.

312
00:13:53,867 --> 00:13:56,000
He works at the Club Vivant.

313
00:13:56,002 --> 00:13:58,102
ANNOUNCER:
     Ladies and gentlemen,
          Tim Voorman.

314
00:13:58,104 --> 00:13:59,604
CERRETA:
Mr. Voorman?

315
00:13:59,606 --> 00:14:01,840
Sergeant Cerreta,
Detective Logan.

316
00:14:01,842 --> 00:14:05,143
Very impressive.

317
00:14:05,144 --> 00:14:08,445
Louie Kleinman says you ordered
 Lucy Neven's intimate apparel.

318
00:14:08,448 --> 00:14:11,916
You think I was involved with...

319
00:14:11,918 --> 00:14:14,953
Yeah, well, I also ordered
    Joan Collins's costumes.

320
00:14:14,955 --> 00:14:17,088
They help me get into character.

321
00:14:17,090 --> 00:14:18,556
And they fit you?

322
00:14:18,558 --> 00:14:21,209
Well, I'm very petite.

323
00:14:21,210 --> 00:14:23,861
Mr. Voorman, Thursday night,
did you take a walk in the park?

324
00:14:23,864 --> 00:14:25,430
I don't believe this.

325
00:14:25,432 --> 00:14:26,431
I was here.

326
00:14:26,433 --> 00:14:28,533
Two shows-- 8:00 and 10:00.

327
00:14:32,873 --> 00:14:35,640
You happen to leave
             between shows?

328
00:14:35,642 --> 00:14:38,109
Do you have any idea
       how long it takes

329
00:14:38,111 --> 00:14:39,510
to put on this face?

330
00:14:39,512 --> 00:14:41,646
And contrary
     to what<i> you</i> might think,

331
00:14:41,648 --> 00:14:44,182
I don't go out in public
            in drag.

332
00:14:44,184 --> 00:14:45,650
I do this for a living.

333
00:14:45,652 --> 00:14:47,118
CERRETA:
                 This isn't
                 your stage act,

334
00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,519
so you can pack in
              the attitude.

335
00:14:48,521 --> 00:14:50,588
Do you  have any witnesses
who saw you here?

336
00:14:50,590 --> 00:14:54,125
What's the mystery?

337
00:14:54,127 --> 00:14:55,660
I got a guy from Jersey

338
00:14:55,662 --> 00:14:58,663
who sees my Lucy act
       six nights a week.

339
00:14:58,665 --> 00:15:01,065
One guy,
   he wants to talk with Lucy

340
00:15:01,067 --> 00:15:03,101
about the plot on the show.

341
00:15:03,103 --> 00:15:05,570
Another one,
a<i> real</i> weirdo,

342
00:15:05,572 --> 00:15:06,671
buys my Lucy dress.

343
00:15:06,673 --> 00:15:08,072
Who attacked her?

344
00:15:08,074 --> 00:15:09,073
One of them.

345
00:15:09,075 --> 00:15:10,575
Who bought the dress?

346
00:15:10,577 --> 00:15:12,510
Out of his mind.

347
00:15:12,512 --> 00:15:13,678
He loved Lucy.

348
00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,280
He wanted to<i> be</i> with her.

349
00:15:15,282 --> 00:15:16,681
Offers 250.

350
00:15:16,683 --> 00:15:18,283
I thought he was kidding.

351
00:15:18,285 --> 00:15:19,684
500-- I said no.

352
00:15:19,686 --> 00:15:21,019
1,000...

353
00:15:21,021 --> 00:15:23,488
I didn't want to sell it, but...

354
00:15:23,490 --> 00:15:25,089
he scared me a little.

355
00:15:25,091 --> 00:15:26,557
You got the name?

356
00:15:26,559 --> 00:15:29,494
He didn't ask for a receipt.

357
00:15:29,496 --> 00:15:31,663
Mr. Webster? Hi.

358
00:15:31,665 --> 00:15:34,532
This is Joe Harris
           from the Club Vivant.

359
00:15:34,534 --> 00:15:36,034
Mr. Nichols?

360
00:15:36,036 --> 00:15:37,702
Sam Jones, the Club Vivant.

361
00:15:37,704 --> 00:15:40,204
Mr. Voorman...
he'd like to buy back

362
00:15:40,206 --> 00:15:41,706
that dress he sold you.

363
00:15:41,708 --> 00:15:44,175
The dress you bought
      from Tim Voorman...

364
00:15:44,177 --> 00:15:45,944
Okay. Sorry.

365
00:15:45,946 --> 00:15:47,278
Thank you.

366
00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:48,613
Sorry to bother you.

367
00:15:48,615 --> 00:15:50,615
We thought
           the letters were bad.

368
00:15:50,617 --> 00:15:52,016
They're worse

369
00:15:52,018 --> 00:15:53,151
in person.

370
00:15:53,153 --> 00:15:55,053
Hello? Jesse Unger, please.

371
00:15:55,055 --> 00:15:57,722
Could you give me
     his work number then?

372
00:15:57,724 --> 00:15:59,223
Thank you.

373
00:15:59,225 --> 00:16:00,658
Mr. Markson? Hi.

374
00:16:00,660 --> 00:16:03,728
This is Sam Jones
     from the Club Vivant.

375
00:16:03,730 --> 00:16:05,697
Mr. Unger? Yeah, I'll wait.

376
00:16:05,699 --> 00:16:08,733
That Lucy Neven dress
you bought from Tim Voorman?

377
00:16:08,735 --> 00:16:11,569
Well, he would like...

378
00:16:11,571 --> 00:16:12,737
Sorry to bother you.

379
00:16:12,739 --> 00:16:14,172
Mr. Unger?

380
00:16:14,174 --> 00:16:16,708
Yeah, this is Joe Harris,
          Club Vivant.

381
00:16:16,710 --> 00:16:19,610
You know, Mr. Voorman
     would like to buy back

382
00:16:19,612 --> 00:16:21,012
his Lucy Neven dress.

383
00:16:21,014 --> 00:16:22,146
Uh-huh.

384
00:16:22,148 --> 00:16:23,247
Oh. Yeah.

385
00:16:23,249 --> 00:16:24,615
Well, certainly.

386
00:16:24,617 --> 00:16:25,717
Well, thank you.

387
00:16:27,654 --> 00:16:30,722
Mr. Unger
    wants to keep his dress.

388
00:16:30,724 --> 00:16:33,624
Really?

389
00:16:33,626 --> 00:16:34,592
I can't stop.

390
00:16:34,594 --> 00:16:36,728
This has to be done by tonight.

391
00:16:36,730 --> 00:16:38,663
LOGAN:
Did you buy the dress?

392
00:16:38,665 --> 00:16:40,631
Yes, I did--
       for my collection.

393
00:16:40,633 --> 00:16:43,735
I needed something special.

394
00:16:43,737 --> 00:16:46,037
Terrible, Lucy dying, hmm?

395
00:16:46,039 --> 00:16:47,705
Oh, Lucy didn't die, Jesse.

396
00:16:47,707 --> 00:16:49,007
No. On the show.

397
00:16:49,009 --> 00:16:50,775
They had to get rid of her.

398
00:16:50,777 --> 00:16:52,610
Thursday night,
at your girlfriend's--

399
00:16:52,612 --> 00:16:54,645
what time did you leave?

400
00:16:54,647 --> 00:16:56,647
I already told you.

401
00:16:56,649 --> 00:16:57,749
About 10:00.

402
00:16:57,751 --> 00:17:01,686
Is your girlfriend Sandy
at home today?

403
00:17:01,688 --> 00:17:03,287
No, she's not.

404
00:17:03,289 --> 00:17:04,689
She's working.

405
00:17:04,691 --> 00:17:06,657
You've got the wrong idea.

406
00:17:06,659 --> 00:17:09,260
Jesse is Lucy's scrapbook.

407
00:17:09,262 --> 00:17:10,695
It's a hobby.

408
00:17:10,697 --> 00:17:13,664
LOGAN:
Does that include
buying her dress?

409
00:17:13,666 --> 00:17:15,666
You don't understand.

410
00:17:15,668 --> 00:17:18,403
Well, you'll think I'm crazy.

411
00:17:18,405 --> 00:17:20,671
We went to
        a Tina Turner concert--

412
00:17:20,673 --> 00:17:22,140
Jess and me--

413
00:17:22,142 --> 00:17:23,574
I wanted her autograph.

414
00:17:23,576 --> 00:17:25,676
We waited in the cold two hours.

415
00:17:25,678 --> 00:17:27,812
But an autograph
        is not a dress.

416
00:17:27,814 --> 00:17:30,081
Lucy, to me she's boring.

417
00:17:30,083 --> 00:17:31,349
So what?

418
00:17:31,351 --> 00:17:33,651
Jesse doesn't like Tina Turner.

419
00:17:33,653 --> 00:17:36,621
I mean, didn't you
     ever collect anybody?

420
00:17:36,623 --> 00:17:39,257
My wife has a lot
  of Rosemary Clooney records.

421
00:17:39,259 --> 00:17:40,258
Who?

422
00:17:40,260 --> 00:17:41,659
LOGAN:
Miss Reynolds,

423
00:17:41,661 --> 00:17:43,694
Mr. Unger left
at 10:00 p.m.?

424
00:17:43,696 --> 00:17:46,264
What you're thinking
  about Jesse, it couldn't be.

425
00:17:46,266 --> 00:17:48,433
Look, are you sure
about the time?

426
00:17:48,435 --> 00:17:50,735
It might have been earlier.

427
00:17:50,737 --> 00:17:52,437
Maybe a quarter of.

428
00:17:52,439 --> 00:17:55,640
Um, we had an argument.

429
00:17:55,642 --> 00:17:58,443
He wanted me
      to try the dress on.

430
00:17:58,445 --> 00:18:01,179
I didn't think it was right.

431
00:18:01,181 --> 00:18:03,281
Quarter to 10:00? 10:00?
            Come on.

432
00:18:03,283 --> 00:18:05,249
15 minutes makes
    a difference?

433
00:18:05,251 --> 00:18:08,419
15 minutes gives
               him more time
               to get to Lucy's.

434
00:18:08,421 --> 00:18:10,288
Sandy's on 97th Street.

435
00:18:10,290 --> 00:18:14,292
Jesse's home, 57th Street,
    30 to 45 minutes later.

436
00:18:14,294 --> 00:18:17,161
And Lucy lives in between
at 65th Street.

437
00:18:17,163 --> 00:18:20,698
It's enough time, barely, if he
 knew when Lucy walked the dog.

438
00:18:20,700 --> 00:18:23,201
He stopped at Lucy's
on his way home to what?

439
00:18:23,203 --> 00:18:24,702
Talk to her?

440
00:18:24,704 --> 00:18:25,770
Hey, you're the one
       who talked to him.

441
00:18:25,772 --> 00:18:27,371
He look goofy to you?

442
00:18:27,373 --> 00:18:30,108
Seemed fine,
   but who can tell anymore?

443
00:18:30,110 --> 00:18:31,876
31 years old,
he still lives at Daddy's.

444
00:18:31,878 --> 00:18:33,277
Also, he sprang

445
00:18:33,279 --> 00:18:35,646
for 1,000 bucks
            to buy Lucy's dress.

446
00:18:35,648 --> 00:18:38,349
What about his arrival time
                at home?

447
00:18:38,351 --> 00:18:40,284
How solid is that alibi?

448
00:18:42,422 --> 00:18:45,823
<i> I have friends</i>
     <i> in the fashion world.</i>

449
00:18:45,825 --> 00:18:48,493
Is something wrong with that?

450
00:18:48,495 --> 00:18:50,428
You got your son his job.

451
00:18:50,430 --> 00:18:53,498
I arranged an interview,
   they offered him the job.

452
00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:54,899
The woman's dress.

453
00:18:54,901 --> 00:18:56,467
That's $1,000.

454
00:18:56,469 --> 00:18:59,904
Your son can afford that
on the job he has?

455
00:18:59,906 --> 00:19:01,439
Jesse's interests--

456
00:19:01,441 --> 00:19:04,909
he doesn't have to be
      like everybody else.

457
00:19:04,911 --> 00:19:08,479
Following an actress's career--
         it's harmless.

458
00:19:08,481 --> 00:19:10,281
Up to a point.

459
00:19:10,283 --> 00:19:11,749
Mr. Unger,

460
00:19:11,751 --> 00:19:13,217
when Jesse arrived home,

461
00:19:13,219 --> 00:19:14,919
your housekeeper said
         it was 10:30.

462
00:19:14,921 --> 00:19:15,920
You said 10:00.

463
00:19:15,922 --> 00:19:18,456
My son has problems.

464
00:19:18,458 --> 00:19:21,526
Violence is not one of them.

465
00:19:21,528 --> 00:19:22,527
Sandy was upset.

466
00:19:22,529 --> 00:19:23,928
The dress--

467
00:19:23,930 --> 00:19:27,298
I wanted to see, if she
         has such a good figure,

468
00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:28,699
how she'd look in it.

469
00:19:28,701 --> 00:19:30,701
CERRETA:
We can clear this up.

470
00:19:30,703 --> 00:19:32,537
You left Sandy's
apartment at 10:00?

471
00:19:32,539 --> 00:19:33,504
Mm-hmm.

472
00:19:33,506 --> 00:19:34,805
How'd you get home?

473
00:19:34,807 --> 00:19:35,940
I walked.

474
00:19:35,942 --> 00:19:38,543
40 blocks
in a half an hour?

475
00:19:38,545 --> 00:19:40,444
You must be a marathon walker.

476
00:19:40,446 --> 00:19:42,813
Maybe I took a cab.

477
00:19:42,815 --> 00:19:44,282
Well, you know
            what we ought to do?

478
00:19:44,284 --> 00:19:45,950
We ought to go down
             to the precinct.

479
00:19:45,952 --> 00:19:47,518
We'll talk
           the whole thing over.

480
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,489
We'll call the cab company,
    get the whole thing settled.

481
00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:54,425
Um...

482
00:19:54,427 --> 00:19:55,526
Okay, fine.

483
00:19:55,528 --> 00:19:56,527
Sure.

484
00:19:56,529 --> 00:19:57,428
Good.

485
00:19:57,430 --> 00:19:59,964
Look, I'm sorry about Lucy.

486
00:19:59,966 --> 00:20:01,432
But hurting her?

487
00:20:01,434 --> 00:20:03,434
No. I loved watching her.

488
00:20:03,436 --> 00:20:05,836
I have a little television
at work.

489
00:20:05,838 --> 00:20:09,574
We want to remind you that
  you're entitled to a lawyer.

490
00:20:09,576 --> 00:20:10,975
Sandy will tell you.

491
00:20:10,977 --> 00:20:13,978
Olivia, she said
   that I came home at 10:30.

492
00:20:13,980 --> 00:20:15,813
I would never hurt Lucy.

493
00:20:15,815 --> 00:20:17,548
Will you excuse me?

494
00:20:23,523 --> 00:20:26,490
He's in tooth fairy land
and he's scared.

495
00:20:26,492 --> 00:20:29,527
The hospital says Lucy
          has some paralysis.

496
00:20:29,529 --> 00:20:31,395
She still has
                 blurred vision,

497
00:20:31,397 --> 00:20:33,397
but they will
                 bring her over.

498
00:20:33,399 --> 00:20:36,234
Do you think
            you can get this guy

499
00:20:36,236 --> 00:20:37,902
to volunteer
                   for a lineup?

500
00:20:37,904 --> 00:20:39,470
I don't know.

501
00:20:39,472 --> 00:20:40,871
What if he won't?

502
00:20:40,873 --> 00:20:42,473
Heck if I know.

503
00:20:42,475 --> 00:20:43,541
Okay.

504
00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:50,581
Jesse, would you like to be
          in a lineup?

505
00:20:50,583 --> 00:20:53,985
If nobody identifies you,
      you go back to work.

506
00:20:53,987 --> 00:20:55,353
A lineup?

507
00:20:55,355 --> 00:20:56,520
For who?

508
00:20:56,522 --> 00:20:57,888
Lucy Neven.

509
00:21:19,412 --> 00:21:21,379
Take your time.

510
00:21:21,381 --> 00:21:23,047
There's no hurry.

511
00:21:32,659 --> 00:21:34,592
(<i> Neven gasping</i> )

512
00:21:34,594 --> 00:21:36,360
Oh, my God!

513
00:21:36,362 --> 00:21:38,929
That's... that's him.

514
00:21:38,931 --> 00:21:43,367
He stopped me on the street
       a couple of times.

515
00:21:43,369 --> 00:21:44,535
Which one is he?

516
00:21:44,537 --> 00:21:45,536
Hmm?

517
00:21:45,538 --> 00:21:50,074
It's number four.

518
00:21:50,076 --> 00:21:52,576
He said that he
needed me.

519
00:21:54,447 --> 00:21:56,447
Let's get the video camera.

520
00:21:56,449 --> 00:21:59,317
One more shot at him
and he's going to talk.

521
00:21:59,319 --> 00:22:00,551
Yeah.

522
00:22:01,688 --> 00:22:03,988
Your dad will be here soon.

523
00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:06,390
You don't have to talk now.

524
00:22:06,392 --> 00:22:07,625
Was Lucy here?

525
00:22:07,627 --> 00:22:10,695
She says she saw you that night.

526
00:22:15,001 --> 00:22:17,635
(<i> knocking</i> )

527
00:22:25,445 --> 00:22:28,512
Had these on him
when he was booked.

528
00:22:41,427 --> 00:22:43,427
Lucy's ring, Jesse.

529
00:22:50,036 --> 00:22:51,469
Her medal.

530
00:22:55,608 --> 00:22:58,376
Where did you
get these?

531
00:23:00,446 --> 00:23:02,913
She wouldn't listen.

532
00:23:02,915 --> 00:23:05,549
I just wanted to talk.

533
00:23:07,086 --> 00:23:09,987
She told me
            to leave her alone.

534
00:23:09,989 --> 00:23:12,723
I didn't want to hurt her.

535
00:23:12,725 --> 00:23:14,692
God, her eyes!

536
00:23:16,496 --> 00:23:19,930
If you saw her eyes.

537
00:23:19,932 --> 00:23:23,467
She walked right by me.

538
00:23:23,469 --> 00:23:26,437
She didn't say anything.

539
00:23:26,439 --> 00:23:30,508
I tried to tell her
how I need her.

540
00:23:30,510 --> 00:23:33,577
I didn't want to hurt her.

541
00:23:36,649 --> 00:23:40,684
She just got tangled up
       in her dog leash,

542
00:23:40,686 --> 00:23:43,120
and I went to help her,

543
00:23:43,122 --> 00:23:45,723
and she started hitting at me,

544
00:23:45,725 --> 00:23:48,426
and the dog was barking,

545
00:23:48,428 --> 00:23:52,997
and I just wanted to talk
            to her.

546
00:23:52,999 --> 00:23:54,465
That's all.

547
00:23:54,467 --> 00:23:56,467
I just wanted to talk to her.

548
00:23:58,438 --> 00:24:01,539
OLIVET:
  How long have you been aware
         of Lucy Neven?

549
00:24:01,541 --> 00:24:03,974
JESSE:
   Ever since I can remember.

550
00:24:03,976 --> 00:24:05,075
Come on, Ben.

551
00:24:05,077 --> 00:24:06,977
You saw that tape.

552
00:24:06,979 --> 00:24:09,513
This guy's got toys
             in the attic.

553
00:24:09,515 --> 00:24:13,083
Is he competent enough
to help you with his case?

554
00:24:13,085 --> 00:24:15,886
I guarantee you,
              he didn't know
              what he was doing.

555
00:24:15,888 --> 00:24:17,988
That's not the issue here.

556
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:19,957
Can he help you
defend him?

557
00:24:19,959 --> 00:24:22,059
Maybe,
        but he's still bonkers.

558
00:24:22,061 --> 00:24:24,161
He didn't know
           what he was doing
           when he attacked her.

559
00:24:24,163 --> 00:24:27,465
You don't know that,
and neither do I.

560
00:24:27,467 --> 00:24:30,067
Let's first see
          if he can stand trial.

561
00:24:30,069 --> 00:24:32,069
I've seen trials on TV.

562
00:24:32,071 --> 00:24:33,804
Lucy was in one.

563
00:24:33,806 --> 00:24:35,940
OLIVET:
    What happens at a trial?

564
00:24:35,942 --> 00:24:37,875
Why are you asking me that?

565
00:24:37,877 --> 00:24:40,244
We both know they decide
if you're guilty.

566
00:24:40,246 --> 00:24:42,513
What does your lawyer do?

567
00:24:42,515 --> 00:24:45,816
He tries to defend me from...

568
00:24:45,818 --> 00:24:48,953
He keeps me from going to jail.

569
00:24:48,955 --> 00:24:51,789
Why would you go to jail, Jesse?

570
00:24:51,791 --> 00:24:54,124
Sorry, Dr. Olivet.
                Off-limits.

571
00:24:54,126 --> 00:24:56,527
I'm not asking about the crime,
          Dr. Mandel.

572
00:24:56,529 --> 00:24:59,897
I'm asking if he understands
     why people go to jail.

573
00:24:59,899 --> 00:25:01,232
Because they break the law.

574
00:25:01,234 --> 00:25:03,601
Hurting somebody,
   is that breaking the law?

575
00:25:03,603 --> 00:25:06,270
These are stupid questions.

576
00:25:06,272 --> 00:25:08,272
Jesse, please...

577
00:25:08,274 --> 00:25:11,275
Is it wrong to hurt somebody?

578
00:25:11,277 --> 00:25:14,044
I just wanted to talk to her.

579
00:25:14,046 --> 00:25:16,247
That's all.

580
00:25:18,885 --> 00:25:20,818
STONE:
     <i> what is the argument?</i>

581
00:25:20,820 --> 00:25:23,187
Mr. Unger understands
the legal process.

582
00:25:23,189 --> 00:25:25,022
He babbled
                   a confession.

583
00:25:25,024 --> 00:25:26,924
That doesn't
            give you a problem?

584
00:25:26,926 --> 00:25:28,125
He was frightened;
that does not mean

585
00:25:28,127 --> 00:25:30,027
he's not competent
        to stand trial.

586
00:25:30,029 --> 00:25:32,229
He does not understand
the criminal justice system.

587
00:25:32,231 --> 00:25:33,931
He knows what a trial is.

588
00:25:33,933 --> 00:25:35,132
Hey, hey, this isn't
                 a free-for-all.

589
00:25:35,134 --> 00:25:37,902
I ask the questions.

590
00:25:37,904 --> 00:25:39,603
You honestly contend,

591
00:25:39,605 --> 00:25:42,039
he can't give you
               pertinent facts?

592
00:25:42,041 --> 00:25:45,042
Judge, he is suffering
a neurotic denial,

593
00:25:45,044 --> 00:25:47,311
and it's hard
to get any information

594
00:25:47,313 --> 00:25:49,179
out of him at all.

595
00:25:49,181 --> 00:25:52,082
I'll read
    the doctors' reports again.

596
00:25:52,084 --> 00:25:54,952
Meantime,
    Mr. Unger stays at Rikers.

597
00:25:54,954 --> 00:25:58,589
MAN:
                  Come on, Lucy,
                  you can do it.

598
00:25:58,591 --> 00:26:00,324
Right to the end.

599
00:26:00,326 --> 00:26:03,060
Keep walking.

600
00:26:03,062 --> 00:26:05,596
It's a piece of cake.

601
00:26:08,568 --> 00:26:11,635
STONE:
  They say if we go to trial,

602
00:26:11,637 --> 00:26:13,938
that you'll be able
                to testify.

603
00:26:13,940 --> 00:26:15,306
It's your choice.

604
00:26:15,308 --> 00:26:17,641
Don't force yourself, honey.

605
00:26:17,643 --> 00:26:24,949
(<i> raspy-voiced:</i> )
I'll testify if I have to crawl
      into the courtroom.

606
00:26:24,951 --> 00:26:26,951
He came after me before.

607
00:26:26,953 --> 00:26:29,353
He called the house
         several times.

608
00:26:29,355 --> 00:26:31,689
Somehow, he got the number.

609
00:26:31,691 --> 00:26:33,958
If he doesn't go to jail...

610
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,026
(<i> violent coughing</i> )

611
00:26:51,677 --> 00:26:53,143
Lucy...

612
00:26:53,145 --> 00:26:57,681
I'll do everything I can
to make sure that never happens.

613
00:26:59,952 --> 00:27:02,353
Schreiber says
              we can indict him.

614
00:27:02,355 --> 00:27:05,055
He's competent
                 to stand trial.

615
00:27:07,893 --> 00:27:09,994
Does that serve justice?

616
00:27:09,996 --> 00:27:12,162
Jesse Unger on trial?
In prison?

617
00:27:12,164 --> 00:27:14,898
If he's responsible
for his actions,

618
00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:17,067
yes, I think
justice is served.

619
00:27:17,069 --> 00:27:18,969
Mr. Stone, my son,

620
00:27:18,971 --> 00:27:21,705
after he lost
                   his mother...

621
00:27:21,707 --> 00:27:23,340
you can't imagine.

622
00:27:23,342 --> 00:27:25,342
I tried to help him.

623
00:27:25,344 --> 00:27:27,911
Why didn't you seek
       professional help?

624
00:27:27,913 --> 00:27:30,114
He's not like
                   other people.

625
00:27:30,116 --> 00:27:32,416
He never
            seemed dangerous.

626
00:27:32,418 --> 00:27:35,686
Jack, it's your meeting.

627
00:27:35,688 --> 00:27:36,987
Reconsider going to trial, Ben.

628
00:27:36,989 --> 00:27:38,922
Work out some kind of treatment
            for him.

629
00:27:38,924 --> 00:27:41,659
If they can protect Lucy Neven
from him...

630
00:27:41,661 --> 00:27:43,127
You know that they can't.

631
00:27:43,129 --> 00:27:44,428
A jury can.

632
00:27:44,430 --> 00:27:46,430
All I've got to do

633
00:27:46,432 --> 00:27:50,167
is prove he was insane
 at the moment he attacked her.

634
00:27:50,169 --> 00:27:52,770
Not a second before,
      not a second after.

635
00:27:52,772 --> 00:27:56,206
I've tried a lot of these cases,
       Ben; you haven't.

636
00:27:56,208 --> 00:27:58,976
I'm a quick study.

637
00:27:58,978 --> 00:28:00,978
Why is Gaffney so confident?

638
00:28:00,980 --> 00:28:03,313
Insanity defenses
      are not easy to win.

639
00:28:03,315 --> 00:28:05,049
Olivet will testify
      he's not delusional.

640
00:28:05,051 --> 00:28:06,984
What more can we do?

641
00:28:06,986 --> 00:28:08,986
"Delusional"-- fancy word.

642
00:28:08,988 --> 00:28:12,122
You might as well say
   "subordinated debenture."

643
00:28:12,124 --> 00:28:15,025
A jury knows crazy
      and not crazy, Paul.

644
00:28:15,027 --> 00:28:17,394
They don't know<i> legally</i> crazy.

645
00:28:17,396 --> 00:28:20,030
You know
    what really worries me--

646
00:28:20,032 --> 00:28:22,332
I make my best case
      to prove he's sane.

647
00:28:22,334 --> 00:28:23,801
We lose.

648
00:28:23,803 --> 00:28:26,070
He goes to a hospital.

649
00:28:26,072 --> 00:28:28,005
I have to turn 180°

650
00:28:28,007 --> 00:28:31,008
and argue he is not sane
    so they keep him there.

651
00:28:31,010 --> 00:28:32,409
It's no-win.

652
00:28:32,411 --> 00:28:34,378
Maybe we make a deal-- assault.

653
00:28:34,380 --> 00:28:37,247
for a couple of years--
         Bad risk-- he goes away

654
00:28:37,249 --> 00:28:40,984
as soon as he gets out,
   he could kill that woman.

655
00:28:40,986 --> 00:28:43,053
(<i> phone buzzing</i> )

656
00:28:47,493 --> 00:28:49,760
Mm-hmm.

657
00:28:51,363 --> 00:28:53,097
Lucy Neven.

658
00:28:53,099 --> 00:28:55,099
Better talk to her.

659
00:28:55,101 --> 00:28:57,234
How could they
                let him mail it?

660
00:28:57,236 --> 00:28:59,403
Why didn't
            somebody stop him?

661
00:28:59,405 --> 00:29:01,338
"I never wanted to hurt you.

662
00:29:01,340 --> 00:29:03,140
"I had to bring you close.

663
00:29:03,142 --> 00:29:05,008
"We're the same person.

664
00:29:05,010 --> 00:29:07,044
We'll always be close."

665
00:29:07,046 --> 00:29:09,747
I'm sorry.
 This shouldn't have happened.

666
00:29:09,749 --> 00:29:11,281
They put a watch

667
00:29:11,283 --> 00:29:13,117
on his mail today.

668
00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:15,753
He said we're the same person.

669
00:29:15,755 --> 00:29:18,122
He sounds crazier than ever.

670
00:29:18,124 --> 00:29:19,823
He's shrewder than ever.

671
00:29:19,825 --> 00:29:21,325
He wants to sound crazy.

672
00:29:21,327 --> 00:29:24,394
Do we have to turn this over
          to Gaffney?

673
00:29:24,396 --> 00:29:28,265
STONE:
We don't turn it over,
he'll get a subpoena.

674
00:29:28,267 --> 00:29:31,034
Jesse will tell him
      he sent the letter.

675
00:29:31,036 --> 00:29:34,037
They're going to use it
    to show how crazy he is.

676
00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:35,839
That's what he wants.

677
00:29:37,409 --> 00:29:39,543
<i> And after reading a report</i>

678
00:29:39,545 --> 00:29:41,278
of his personal history?

679
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,080
I examined Mr. Unger.

680
00:29:43,082 --> 00:29:45,482
Did you reach any conclusions
about his mental condition?

681
00:29:45,484 --> 00:29:47,451
Yes, I have.

682
00:29:47,453 --> 00:29:50,788
Mr. Unger has personality
    and character disorders.

683
00:29:50,790 --> 00:29:52,790
He's obsessive-compulsive,

684
00:29:52,792 --> 00:29:54,892
with signs
          of extreme depression.

685
00:29:54,894 --> 00:29:57,561
Does this mean
he is incapable
of understanding

686
00:29:57,563 --> 00:30:00,063
the consequences of his actions?

687
00:30:00,065 --> 00:30:04,468
No. It means he's unhappy,
and in some ways dysfunctional.

688
00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:06,520
In your expert opinion,

689
00:30:06,521 --> 00:30:08,571
does Mr. Unger suffer from
any condition that would impair

690
00:30:08,574 --> 00:30:11,175
his ability
   to know right from wrong?

691
00:30:11,177 --> 00:30:12,876
Despite his emotional problems,

692
00:30:12,878 --> 00:30:15,479
in my opinion, Mr. Unger
  has a complete understanding

693
00:30:15,481 --> 00:30:18,348
of the consequences
             of his actions.

694
00:30:18,350 --> 00:30:20,918
Thank you. No further questions.

695
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,586
Dr. Olivet,

696
00:30:22,588 --> 00:30:27,457
you spent three hours
talking to Mr. Unger.

697
00:30:27,459 --> 00:30:30,394
Do you think
that's sufficient time

698
00:30:30,396 --> 00:30:33,463
to make a judgment
     on his mental health?

699
00:30:33,465 --> 00:30:34,464
Yes, I do.

700
00:30:34,466 --> 00:30:36,533
Admirable.

701
00:30:36,535 --> 00:30:40,871
So, you are telling this court
    with absolute assurance

702
00:30:40,873 --> 00:30:44,208
that Mr. Unger
         did not have an episode

703
00:30:44,210 --> 00:30:46,210
in which he did not know

704
00:30:46,212 --> 00:30:48,512
the consequences
        of his behavior.

705
00:30:48,514 --> 00:30:52,349
In my opinion, Mr. Unger
    knows right from wrong.

706
00:30:52,351 --> 00:30:55,352
He told me
        he'd been watching me

707
00:30:55,354 --> 00:30:58,222
because he knew I would...

708
00:30:58,224 --> 00:31:02,226
I would love him
              if only I met him.

709
00:31:02,228 --> 00:31:06,330
He was very excited,

710
00:31:06,332 --> 00:31:10,367
so I tried
to keep him calm,

711
00:31:10,369 --> 00:31:13,503
and then I tried to get away.

712
00:31:13,505 --> 00:31:15,873
He told me to stop,

713
00:31:15,875 --> 00:31:17,875
and when I didn't,

714
00:31:17,877 --> 00:31:19,943
he attacked me.

715
00:31:22,147 --> 00:31:24,648
Miss Neven,
           prior to this attack,

716
00:31:24,650 --> 00:31:28,151
had you ever seen
           the defendant before?

717
00:31:28,153 --> 00:31:31,989
He accosted me on the street
several times.

718
00:31:31,991 --> 00:31:35,659
I don't remember
                how many.

719
00:31:35,661 --> 00:31:39,963
He told me that he had
called me on the phone.

720
00:31:39,965 --> 00:31:42,165
What is your profession?

721
00:31:42,167 --> 00:31:45,903
I... I was an actress.

722
00:31:45,905 --> 00:31:47,671
You<i> were</i> an actress?

723
00:31:47,673 --> 00:31:51,608
You don't expect to be able
to continue your career?

724
00:31:51,610 --> 00:31:53,210
Objection-- relevance.

725
00:31:53,212 --> 00:31:54,678
The extent
                 of her injuries

726
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,514
is relevant to
  the attempted murder charge.

727
00:31:57,516 --> 00:31:59,549
Overruled.

728
00:31:59,551 --> 00:32:02,419
The witness will answer.

729
00:32:02,421 --> 00:32:06,023
I'll be happy
            if I'm able to walk.

730
00:32:08,527 --> 00:32:11,361
Thank you. No further questions.

731
00:32:12,631 --> 00:32:14,498
Mr. Gaffney?

732
00:32:22,942 --> 00:32:26,009
I have no questions
        of this witness.

733
00:32:28,547 --> 00:32:30,447
Olivet was convincing.

734
00:32:30,449 --> 00:32:32,482
Convincing isn't the point.

735
00:32:32,484 --> 00:32:34,217
Did they understand?

736
00:32:34,219 --> 00:32:36,353
Crazy versus legally crazy.

737
00:32:44,997 --> 00:32:46,997
Voices, delusions...

738
00:32:46,999 --> 00:32:48,699
Convenient.

739
00:32:48,701 --> 00:32:52,436
The one illness that wins
insanity defense.

740
00:32:52,438 --> 00:32:54,671
You read Mandel's transcript.

741
00:32:54,673 --> 00:32:57,274
Did Jesse talk
about voices then?

742
00:32:57,276 --> 00:32:59,576
Mandel interviewed him
                again.

743
00:32:59,578 --> 00:33:01,311
Yeah, I wonder why.

744
00:33:01,313 --> 00:33:03,613
Gaffney--
   would he coach his client?

745
00:33:03,615 --> 00:33:05,382
It's hard to believe.

746
00:33:05,384 --> 00:33:06,750
It's not his style.

747
00:33:06,752 --> 00:33:10,053
I'll tell you one voice
    Jesse Unger is hearing--

748
00:33:10,055 --> 00:33:13,223
the voice telling him
   how not to get convicted.

749
00:33:14,059 --> 00:33:15,625
Listen to this:

750
00:33:15,627 --> 00:33:18,662
"Mandel: Why didn't you tell me
       you heard voices?

751
00:33:18,664 --> 00:33:21,131
"Jesse: The voice said not to.

752
00:33:21,133 --> 00:33:22,599
My father said I should."

753
00:33:22,601 --> 00:33:25,168
"My father said I should."

754
00:33:25,170 --> 00:33:28,138
Your interviews-- no voices?

755
00:33:29,174 --> 00:33:30,374
Is he delusional?

756
00:33:30,376 --> 00:33:32,709
Am I 100% sure?

757
00:33:32,711 --> 00:33:34,177
99.

758
00:33:34,179 --> 00:33:35,779
I'd prefer 100.

759
00:33:35,781 --> 00:33:37,965
Never happens.

760
00:33:37,966 --> 00:33:40,150
Somebody told dad
    what would get Jesse off.

761
00:33:40,152 --> 00:33:42,119
Dad told Jesse.

762
00:33:42,121 --> 00:33:44,688
Voices are
    a very specific symptom.

763
00:33:44,690 --> 00:33:45,689
Mandel.

764
00:33:45,691 --> 00:33:47,124
Intentionally?

765
00:33:47,126 --> 00:33:49,126
I doubt it. What about Gaffney?

766
00:33:49,128 --> 00:33:53,096
Paul read the transcripts
      of his other cases.

767
00:33:53,098 --> 00:33:55,032
But not all of them.

768
00:33:55,034 --> 00:33:57,401
Well, dig up the ones
       you haven't read,

769
00:33:57,403 --> 00:34:01,171
and find out how crazy
 his other clients really were.

770
00:34:01,173 --> 00:34:05,175
<i> After Jesse's mother died,</i>

771
00:34:05,177 --> 00:34:08,045
he couldn't concentrate.

772
00:34:08,047 --> 00:34:10,747
He used to say
      he was going crazy.

773
00:34:10,749 --> 00:34:15,452
What was he
        most concerned about?

774
00:34:15,454 --> 00:34:18,321
He thought the world
was going to blow up.

775
00:34:18,323 --> 00:34:21,124
What were some
        of his other problems?

776
00:34:23,062 --> 00:34:27,197
He said he heard voices
          in his head.

777
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:29,199
Like a radio.

778
00:34:29,201 --> 00:34:31,334
Thank you.

779
00:34:36,308 --> 00:34:38,375
Mr. Unger,

780
00:34:38,377 --> 00:34:40,677
when exactly

781
00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:43,346
did Jesse tell you
        he heard voices?

782
00:34:43,348 --> 00:34:46,817
I think maybe
     in his sophomore year

783
00:34:46,819 --> 00:34:48,385
in high school.

784
00:34:48,387 --> 00:34:51,121
It could have been earlier,
maybe later.

785
00:34:51,123 --> 00:34:52,756
I can't remember.

786
00:34:52,758 --> 00:34:56,426
What did he say
     these voices told him?

787
00:34:58,831 --> 00:35:01,098
I can't remember.

788
00:35:01,100 --> 00:35:03,867
You remember he heard voices.

789
00:35:03,869 --> 00:35:06,169
I do. Yes, I do.

790
00:35:06,171 --> 00:35:08,138
Did you seek

791
00:35:08,140 --> 00:35:09,873
psychiatric care for your son

792
00:35:09,875 --> 00:35:11,208
at this time?

793
00:35:14,146 --> 00:35:15,846
No.

794
00:35:15,848 --> 00:35:17,414
Why not?

795
00:35:17,416 --> 00:35:19,850
Well...

796
00:35:19,852 --> 00:35:22,886
I'm not sure why I didn't.

797
00:35:22,888 --> 00:35:25,856
That's odd.

798
00:35:25,858 --> 00:35:28,158
Thank you.

799
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,129
Mr. Unger suffers from
   processive disintegration.

800
00:35:32,131 --> 00:35:35,899
One of the symptoms
is "command" hallucinations--

801
00:35:35,901 --> 00:35:38,401
voices telling him
to do things.

802
00:35:38,403 --> 00:35:41,138
Now, Dr. Mandel,

803
00:35:41,140 --> 00:35:46,143
Jesse Unger told you
that he heard voices

804
00:35:46,145 --> 00:35:50,147
telling him to kill
          Lucy Neven.

805
00:35:50,149 --> 00:35:51,381
Would that mean

806
00:35:51,383 --> 00:35:53,850
he was out of control
           of his actions?

807
00:35:53,852 --> 00:35:55,886
In my opinion, yes.

808
00:35:55,888 --> 00:35:58,288
Mr. Unger is often guided

809
00:35:58,290 --> 00:36:00,490
by an overpowering voice

810
00:36:00,492 --> 00:36:02,259
he believes to be real.

811
00:36:02,261 --> 00:36:03,927
Thank you, Doctor.

812
00:36:07,399 --> 00:36:10,767
"Processive disintegration."

813
00:36:13,305 --> 00:36:17,174
Is that a recognized
       medical diagnosis?

814
00:36:17,176 --> 00:36:21,344
It's my language
for a combination of disorders.

815
00:36:21,346 --> 00:36:24,447
So it does not exist
  in standard reference works?

816
00:36:24,449 --> 00:36:25,882
Yes, that's right.

817
00:36:25,884 --> 00:36:29,819
Now, you testified
you interviewed Jesse twice.

818
00:36:29,821 --> 00:36:32,556
Did he mention hearing voices
in the first interview?

819
00:36:32,558 --> 00:36:34,424
No, he was afraid to.

820
00:36:34,426 --> 00:36:37,928
So he never mentioned voices
    until you brought it up?

821
00:36:37,930 --> 00:36:38,929
Yes.

822
00:36:38,931 --> 00:36:39,763
Thank you.

823
00:36:39,765 --> 00:36:40,497
But...

824
00:36:40,499 --> 00:36:43,233
Thank you, Doctor.

825
00:36:43,235 --> 00:36:45,335
They're playing
with the system.

826
00:36:45,337 --> 00:36:46,870
Lying? All of them?

827
00:36:46,872 --> 00:36:50,473
You think the shrink
            coached them?

828
00:36:50,475 --> 00:36:53,376
Maybe.

829
00:36:53,378 --> 00:36:54,945
Gaffney.

830
00:36:54,947 --> 00:36:57,280
You don't think a lawyer
          would do it.

831
00:36:57,282 --> 00:36:58,515
Olivet doesn't think
     a shrink would do it.

832
00:36:58,517 --> 00:36:59,849
We're right back
       where we started.

833
00:36:59,851 --> 00:37:01,384
He goes to a hospital.

834
00:37:01,386 --> 00:37:02,886
He says he's cured.

835
00:37:02,888 --> 00:37:04,988
He doesn't hear voices anymore.

836
00:37:04,990 --> 00:37:07,424
He's back on the street,

837
00:37:07,425 --> 00:37:09,859
faster than Lucy Neven
  can change her phone number.

838
00:37:09,861 --> 00:37:11,428
(<i> knock at door</i> )

839
00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:13,430
Finished Gaffney's cases

840
00:37:13,432 --> 00:37:16,233
all the way back
                    to '79.

841
00:37:16,235 --> 00:37:19,970
13 insanity defenses,
seven acquittals.

842
00:37:19,972 --> 00:37:22,539
Three of them,
                 the defendants
                 were delusional

843
00:37:22,541 --> 00:37:24,407
<i> after</i>
            they started trial.

844
00:37:24,409 --> 00:37:25,942
It's not a clear pattern,

845
00:37:25,944 --> 00:37:28,411
but I grant you,
it's questionable.

846
00:37:28,413 --> 00:37:29,813
STONE:
Call Mr. Unger.

847
00:37:29,815 --> 00:37:31,381
Say if he agrees,

848
00:37:31,383 --> 00:37:34,451
we'd like to meet
with him alone.

849
00:37:35,921 --> 00:37:38,255
That's absurd.

850
00:37:38,257 --> 00:37:41,258
Do you think I would lie
          under oath?

851
00:37:41,260 --> 00:37:43,893
As a parent, yes,
    I think you would.

852
00:37:43,895 --> 00:37:46,396
You want my son in jail.

853
00:37:46,398 --> 00:37:48,598
You want me in jail too?

854
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,268
Do you have children,
            Mr. Stone?

855
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:53,036
Are they healthy?

856
00:37:53,038 --> 00:37:55,472
Happy?

857
00:37:55,474 --> 00:37:58,642
We all want our children
          to be happy.

858
00:37:58,644 --> 00:38:02,879
If not so, at least protected.

859
00:38:02,881 --> 00:38:05,382
My son is sick.

860
00:38:05,384 --> 00:38:08,852
There is no dispute.

861
00:38:08,854 --> 00:38:11,488
Good night.

862
00:38:17,896 --> 00:38:19,462
<i> He had no right</i>

863
00:38:19,464 --> 00:38:21,031
to drag Bill Unger down here.

864
00:38:21,033 --> 00:38:23,366
Mr. Unger was invited.

865
00:38:23,368 --> 00:38:26,303
You wanted him to implicate me
in perjury.

866
00:38:26,305 --> 00:38:27,971
Three cases, your clients

867
00:38:27,973 --> 00:38:30,307
never heard voices
              until trial.

868
00:38:30,309 --> 00:38:32,442
Mandel was your shrink
                 on two of them.

869
00:38:32,444 --> 00:38:34,577
If I wanted to discuss Jesse's
symptoms with his father,

870
00:38:34,579 --> 00:38:35,879
that's my job.

871
00:38:35,881 --> 00:38:37,447
Jack, you're overplaying
           your hand.

872
00:38:37,449 --> 00:38:39,349
There's an appearance
        of impropriety.

873
00:38:39,351 --> 00:38:43,086
File a complaint with
the disciplinary committee.

874
00:38:43,088 --> 00:38:45,655
The ghost of John Hinckley.

875
00:38:45,657 --> 00:38:47,057
That the problem?

876
00:38:47,059 --> 00:38:48,591
Shoots the President

877
00:38:48,593 --> 00:38:51,661
of the United States
and gets off?

878
00:38:51,663 --> 00:38:54,698
You're desperate,
aren't you?

879
00:38:54,700 --> 00:38:56,733
You want out of this?

880
00:38:56,735 --> 00:38:58,668
I'll plead it.

881
00:38:58,670 --> 00:39:00,470
Assault one.

882
00:39:01,740 --> 00:39:03,406
Gentlemen,

883
00:39:03,408 --> 00:39:05,075
think about it.

884
00:39:10,015 --> 00:39:11,481
I don't know, Adam.

885
00:39:11,483 --> 00:39:13,917
Jesse Unger could walk.

886
00:39:13,919 --> 00:39:16,686
Gaffney's bluffing with assault.

887
00:39:16,688 --> 00:39:19,956
He'll take manslaughter one,
            attempt.

888
00:39:22,761 --> 00:39:25,595
I should talk with Lucy Neven.

889
00:39:26,932 --> 00:39:28,998
What does it mean?

890
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,500
How long?

891
00:39:30,502 --> 00:39:34,971
A minimum of five years,
a maximum of 15.

892
00:39:36,675 --> 00:39:38,775
What do you think?

893
00:39:38,777 --> 00:39:40,777
It's your life,

894
00:39:40,779 --> 00:39:45,382
but honestly, I don't know
    what that jury will do.

895
00:39:45,384 --> 00:39:52,655
Is there any way
   we can make sure it's 15?

896
00:39:52,657 --> 00:39:55,658
The parole board?

897
00:39:55,660 --> 00:39:57,660
We can recommend.

898
00:39:57,662 --> 00:40:00,130
We have no control over them,

899
00:40:00,132 --> 00:40:03,700
and they're just
  as unpredictable as juries.

900
00:40:03,702 --> 00:40:06,536
Why me?

901
00:40:06,538 --> 00:40:09,739
I can't give him anything.

902
00:40:13,445 --> 00:40:16,813
I'll take my chances
         with the jury

903
00:40:16,815 --> 00:40:19,749
if it's all right with you.

904
00:40:21,653 --> 00:40:24,154
Lucy, the jury...

905
00:40:25,724 --> 00:40:29,426
it may not give you
         what you want.

906
00:40:29,428 --> 00:40:34,030
What I want is what I had.

907
00:40:38,804 --> 00:40:42,205
How often do you hear
       this voice, Jesse?

908
00:40:42,207 --> 00:40:45,708
She talks to me
when I get confused.

909
00:40:45,710 --> 00:40:47,744
It's a woman's voice?

910
00:40:47,746 --> 00:40:49,479
Mm-hmm.

911
00:40:49,481 --> 00:40:51,815
Does the voice
                  have a name?

912
00:40:51,817 --> 00:40:55,685
No, she's.... she's just there.

913
00:40:55,687 --> 00:40:57,153
What does she tell you?

914
00:40:57,155 --> 00:40:59,856
I can't talk about that.

915
00:40:59,858 --> 00:41:00,857
(<i> clears throat</i> )

916
00:41:00,859 --> 00:41:03,126
GAFFNEY:
Jesse...

917
00:41:03,128 --> 00:41:08,498
did this voice tell you
      to hurt Lucy Neven?

918
00:41:10,702 --> 00:41:14,237
She told me that if Lucy
wouldn't love me,

919
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,774
that I had to kill her.

920
00:41:20,645 --> 00:41:23,646
Is this your handwriting?

921
00:41:23,648 --> 00:41:25,715
Mm-hmm.

922
00:41:25,717 --> 00:41:28,585
Did you write this to Lucy
      and send it to her?

923
00:41:28,587 --> 00:41:30,587
Yes, I did.

924
00:41:30,589 --> 00:41:33,156
I'd like you to read
from the top,

925
00:41:33,158 --> 00:41:35,792
out loud to the court.

926
00:41:36,895 --> 00:41:39,662
"Dear Lucy,

927
00:41:39,664 --> 00:41:41,798
"I know you understand
   I never meant to hurt you.

928
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,800
I wanted to protect you..."

929
00:41:43,802 --> 00:41:45,702
Louder, son.

930
00:41:45,704 --> 00:41:48,671
So everyone can hear.

931
00:41:50,509 --> 00:41:54,644
"I know you understand
   I never meant to hurt you.

932
00:41:54,646 --> 00:41:57,714
"I wanted to protect you.

933
00:41:57,716 --> 00:42:00,783
"I know that you care about me.

934
00:42:00,785 --> 00:42:01,918
"I know we could be together.

935
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,220
"I would do anything for you.

936
00:42:04,222 --> 00:42:06,756
"I didn't want to hit you.

937
00:42:06,758 --> 00:42:09,659
I love you."

938
00:42:09,661 --> 00:42:11,694
See, inside we're the same.

939
00:42:11,696 --> 00:42:14,597
We're the same people.

940
00:42:17,536 --> 00:42:19,602
GAFFNEY:
Thank you, Jesse.

941
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,907
Mr. Unger, how old were you

942
00:42:23,909 --> 00:42:26,943
when you first heard
      this woman's voice?

943
00:42:26,945 --> 00:42:28,678
I don't remember.

944
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,747
She's always
with me.

945
00:42:30,749 --> 00:42:33,550
And aside from Lucy Neven,

946
00:42:33,552 --> 00:42:35,685
did the voice ask you

947
00:42:35,687 --> 00:42:37,687
to hurt
                   other people?

948
00:42:37,689 --> 00:42:39,289
I don't remember.

949
00:42:39,291 --> 00:42:41,758
If you had the opportunity,

950
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,694
would you still want to talk
        with Lucy Neven?

951
00:42:44,696 --> 00:42:46,129
Uh-huh.

952
00:42:46,131 --> 00:42:48,598
Would you continue
              to write to her?

953
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,700
Yes, I'd have to.

954
00:42:50,702 --> 00:42:52,735
STONE:
If you had
the opportunity,

955
00:42:52,737 --> 00:42:55,138
would you pursue
    a relationship with her?

956
00:42:55,140 --> 00:42:57,273
Well, I don't know.

957
00:42:57,275 --> 00:42:58,975
Maybe.

958
00:43:00,712 --> 00:43:02,712
Nothing's changed.

959
00:43:02,714 --> 00:43:05,214
STONE:
Nothing's changed?

960
00:43:05,216 --> 00:43:06,783
No.

961
00:43:06,785 --> 00:43:08,751
Nothing.

962
00:43:11,323 --> 00:43:13,790
<i> So, what are you to decide?</i>

963
00:43:13,792 --> 00:43:15,792
In our society,

964
00:43:15,794 --> 00:43:18,695
we make exceptions
      for mental illness.

965
00:43:18,697 --> 00:43:20,997
But should that exception
            be made

966
00:43:20,999 --> 00:43:24,667
when it endangers the life
    of another human being?

967
00:43:24,669 --> 00:43:27,153
And Jesse Unger

968
00:43:27,154 --> 00:43:29,638
has made it perfectly clear that
 he will come after Lucy Neven

969
00:43:29,641 --> 00:43:33,776
again and again until he gets
    what he wants from her,

970
00:43:33,778 --> 00:43:36,212
and if he can't have her,

971
00:43:36,214 --> 00:43:38,881
he'll make sure
no one else does.

972
00:43:38,883 --> 00:43:41,684
Now, is this obsession insane?

973
00:43:42,988 --> 00:43:46,990
No one can completely know
the mind of another human being.

974
00:43:46,992 --> 00:43:51,628
We can't crawl inside his skin
and see the world as he sees it.

975
00:43:51,630 --> 00:43:53,029
However, we do know

976
00:43:53,031 --> 00:43:56,766
that Jesse Unger
had no documented history

977
00:43:56,768 --> 00:43:59,936
of delusional episodes
      prior to this case.

978
00:43:59,938 --> 00:44:04,641
In fact, he made no mention
 of delusions or hearing voices

979
00:44:04,643 --> 00:44:06,242
until after his father

980
00:44:06,244 --> 00:44:10,413
had asked for a second
    psychiatric evaluation.

981
00:44:10,415 --> 00:44:13,650
Now, under the law,
        we human beings

982
00:44:13,652 --> 00:44:16,919
are responsible for our actions
     except for one thing:

983
00:44:16,921 --> 00:44:19,756
delusional mental illness.

984
00:44:19,758 --> 00:44:24,260
Jesse Unger's convenient
   and last-minute reporting

985
00:44:24,262 --> 00:44:25,928
of this condition

986
00:44:25,930 --> 00:44:28,798
is a responsible act.

987
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,335
He knows,
    as clearly as you or I,

988
00:44:32,337 --> 00:44:35,071
that he brutally attacked
          Lucy Neven,

989
00:44:35,073 --> 00:44:37,674
and he knows, just as clearly,

990
00:44:37,676 --> 00:44:41,411
what he has to do
     to escape punishment.

991
00:44:41,413 --> 00:44:46,983
Now, he destroyed
       Lucy Neven's life.

992
00:44:46,985 --> 00:44:50,386
Hold him responsible for it.

993
00:44:54,959 --> 00:44:56,993
JUDGE:
On the sole count
of the indictment,

994
00:44:56,995 --> 00:44:58,761
attempted murder
in the second degree,

995
00:44:58,763 --> 00:45:00,329
how do you find?

996
00:45:00,331 --> 00:45:02,732
We find
     the defendant guilty.

997
00:45:02,734 --> 00:45:05,868
JUDGE:
I thank the jury
for their service.

998
00:45:05,870 --> 00:45:07,770
(<i> gavel bangs</i> )
Court is adjourned.

999
00:45:07,772 --> 00:45:09,405
Sentencing hearing
        to be scheduled.

1000
00:45:12,477 --> 00:45:14,744
Thank you.

1001
00:45:31,896 --> 00:45:33,896
Now, you may not be happy.

1002
00:45:33,898 --> 00:45:35,465
Lucy Neven is.

1003
00:45:35,467 --> 00:45:37,400
You know as well as I do

1004
00:45:37,402 --> 00:45:39,001
that the law ought
              to be changed.

1005
00:45:39,003 --> 00:45:40,870
Juries are not
                  psychiatrists.

1006
00:45:40,872 --> 00:45:43,139
He never got the help
he needed, Ben,

1007
00:45:43,141 --> 00:45:45,875
and the jury followed
the only law we've got.

1008
00:45:45,877 --> 00:45:47,477
We're not gods.

1009
00:45:47,479 --> 00:45:50,413
We're not even angels.

1010
00:45:50,415 --> 00:45:52,148
He should be
                in the hospital.

1011
00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:54,350
We put him in jail.

1012
00:45:56,121 --> 00:46:00,123
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